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I think you’re trying really hard to spin it as good, actually. It was an exceptionally bad result, especially for Starmer. All the accusations, fines levied at the Tories, Labour should have raced ahead and completely obliterated every Tory council seat out there, but they didn’t, Tories even took seats from Labour.
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Labour gained seats from a high baseline. I don't see how that's 'exceptionally bad'. And yes the Tories took seats from Labour, that happens when you have thousands of seats across the country up for election.
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Starmer is a toxic brand to Labour and even more so now, having now being alleged and he himself, under criminal investigation, organising a piss up and curry night, during lockdown rules he voted for!
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And you'll say the next leader is toxic as well.
Corbyn was toxic to the Labour brand. Starmer is just boring. Neutral.