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Old 02-07-2018, 04:04   #68
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
They will agree a deal, Dave.
Okay so I have read you writing this all over the site and I have to ask what makes you say this? You keep saying "we're going to get a deal / max fac is the way to go, and so on". Repetitively. In maybe 10 posts in the last couple days, plenty in this thread etc...so umm what makes you so sure?

An hour or so ago, Barnier said no to a bespoke deal:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/98...Theresa-May-UK

May is going with the idea of part SM access...before Barnier can look at it, Leo put the kibosh on it:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-says-barnier

Even from the UK side, Max Fac is a no go for the EU:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/philip...esa-may-2018-5

The manufacturers association says that it is a no go:

http://www.cityam.com/286524/manufac...s-proposal-non

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KCN1IT25I?il=0

Why and where are you coming up with all this???

Max Fac is not going to happen, there is no guarantee of any deal and if there is one to be had, it looks likely to be entirely on the EU's terms. Because by the hour they seem to be rejecting every single pie in the sky idea from May and co.

So what makes you so sure?

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The only reason Gove made the gesture he did in relation to the 'Customs Partnership' idea was that he knew he wouldn't risk his office by doing so.
Which again just shows how weak May is...and she passively sent Truss out, to smack Gove and couldn't do the most basic thing for herself, like sack him. I figure she thinks that she still owes him for beating Boris out of the race, so she could look like the national and international humiliation that she is. Forget Boris but even for her, with friends like Gove...

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Despite some press reports to the contrary, Theresa May is not wedded to the idea of a customs partnership and she understands that this would prevent us from forging new trade deals. However, it is on the agenda for debate because some remainers within her Cabinet rather like that idea.
See even though the leave team won a referendum, the country is not a dictatorship just yet. There is bound to be the odd bit of, you know...dissent.

That bring said, yet again it is a sign of May's pure worthlessness - CR is a staple of any cabinet yet in this instance, cabinet members are behaving so badly that people who dislike May wish that they could be one, just to humiliate her all the more.

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The only solutions available are 'maximum facilitation' or 'no deal'. That is the real choice. The EU doesn't want a 'no deal' because the EU has an €80bn annual trade surplus with Britain. So it doesn't really take a lot of brain power to work out the best option both for Britain and the EU.
Why do you keep saying that those are the only two options? Because you said so?

As for the 80 billion surplus I would honestly just be willing to take the hit if I were on the EU side - Britain will obviously suffer more in the long run and come begging back to the EU, which will then offer Britain the chance to return, on much more favorable terms to the EU. Play the long game.

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Common sense will prevail in the end.
Yeah, I agree on that front. In the mean time we have to go through the charade of leaving, first - along with all other kinds of nonsense.
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