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Old 01-01-2020, 13:27   #50
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Re: Official Star Wars Saga

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Whether or not Abrams really has retconned much of The Last Jedi in Rise of Skywalker quite as much as some suggest is questionable. There has been a lot of clever marketing around this new film, not all of it positive, pandering to the idiot fanboys who are still feeling the dark side of the butthurt just because their stupid, elaborate internet theories and their favourite obscure trivia about Grand Admiral Thrawn from some early 1990s spin off novel weren’t taken up and validated in The Last Jedi. They have certainly been allowed to believe that Abrams has “rescued” the franchise, but given the negative fanboy reaction to The Last Jedi they probably had little choice but to market The Rise of Skywalker along those lines. Yet we have to remember that Disney stands behind Star Wars now; it paid a king’s ransom for the franchise and it immediately announced the Skywalker saga was to be completed with another trilogy. It is frankly inconceivable that there was no grand plan for where the story was going from the outset. You just don’t pay $4 billion for something without knowing exactly what you plan to do to safeguard the investment.
I really liked the Last Jedi but I think this film does seek to undo a lot of that work.

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They did seek to undermine the Rey's lack of signifiant parentage in this film. I know they said it was the Grandparent, not the Parent, but that's a cop-out to get around Rian Johnson's script. It's clear from TLJ that the intention was that Rey was nobody, that she had to find her own way in this world and this story and that she would not be defined otherwise. It wasn't to set up a twist that, yes, her parents were nobody but her Granddad was. That's crap!

It pandered to Star Wars fans who want every character to be related to someone else they know. Handing them a ready-made place in this Universe. Rey being nobody opened it up and they've closed it again. I know the concept of the force being in anyone was hinted out with Finn but it wasn't as big as TLJ made it.

I am also less convinced that any of this was planned. There has been no foreshadowing, hinting or allusions to Palpatane until this film. I think there would have been at the very least hints of a big bad at the end of The Last Jedi but there isn't, it's just the opening scroll of this film where they go 'well, he's back!' and that's it.

I felt the entire film was an oil tanker turning around from the more ambitious course set by The Last Jedi into a film and narrative Star Wars fans would feel safe with. Here are a few of those famous characters you love, here is a big bad you already know and here are a million Star Destroyers each equipped with a planet killing laser that we didn't bother to send anywhere but here.
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