Thread: The state benefits system mega-thread.
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Old 09-07-2019, 14:49   #2208
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Re: The state benefits system mega-thread.
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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
The device of "Look at those poor people stealing your money! Low life ****!" has been with us for a while now. It is, ironically, a sophisticated narrative design to remove attention from the place where far more money is lost: tax evasion & tax avoidance.

It is in the interests of the wealthy and those who control our media to engineer this and so many of the people in this country fall for it.

Both areas are fraud and both need addressing but you only hear one being vigorously pursued.
Who's doing the 'wotaboutery' now?

Tax avoidance is legal. If the government want to stop it, they need to legislate.

Actually, HMRC is looking very carefully at instances where tax avoidance is employed. To suggest that HMRC is focussing only on benefits is way off beam.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
80% of schemes are found to be not legal in court, I like the way they use the term not legal rather than illegal to, probably because right up until the final moments in court it's legality is uncertain.
In which case, it was evasion, not avoidance.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth View Post
If only there was the same level of outcry about the UK tax gap as there is about fraudulent benefit claims. I'm not saying it's OK to scam the system - it isn't, but HMRC themselves think tax evasion, non payment of tax owed and the hidden economy cost the country in excess of £12bn in the 2017/18 tax year.
So the government should legislate. Don't blame those who can avoid tax legally and do so.
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