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popper · 17-06-2008, 09:00

OT but related,Virgin Media are in the news again and Phorm/NebuAd are also mentioned.

its interesting that the BPI boss Geoff Taylor can get his own BBC column when theres no law to say the ISPs need do what they chose to do.

but we End Users cant get the same chance of a column On the BBC to give our (directly Effected Payed For in full, and in advance of use) ,front line Directly Effected View of this ISP/Phorm Intercepted For Commercial Profit scam.

its in effect Wrong for SOME small (3-5%?)% of End users to use P2p torrents for their non commercial potential Piracy needs(cant use Iplayer/use DRM on their machine etc), BUT its perfectly fine for ISPs like Virgin Media and BT to officially sign "Memorandum's Of Intent" /Contracts with Phorm to Commercially Pirate 100% ,each and every End Users Unique datastreams copyright, and each and every visited website Owners Copyrighted Content for Commercial Gain.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...music-biz.html
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Cash, not idealism, behind ISP embrace of music biz

By Nate Anderson | Published: June 16, 2008 - 08:10AM CT

Virgin Media, one of the UK's largest ISPs, has agreed to forward British music industry nastygrams to subscribers suspected of illegal file-swapping.

The move has proved hugely controversial already, generating charges of "spying on users" and even a BBC column on how Virgin could just go stuff itself into a trash can.

But left undiscussed is the core question of why Virgin is whoring itself out like this; the law doesn't require it, and passing on letters from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) won't make an ISP more dosh. Or will it?

BPI boss Geoff Taylor got his own BBC column last Friday to respond to all the criticism of the deal, and in it he gave a hint about what exactly is going on.

17-06-2008, 09:00	#9154
popper Inactive Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,270	Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] OT but related,Virgin Media are in the news again and Phorm/NebuAd are also mentioned. its interesting that the BPI boss Geoff Taylor can get his own BBC column when theres no law to say the ISPs need do what they chose to do. but we End Users cant get the same chance of a column On the BBC to give our (directly Effected Payed For in full, and in advance of use) ,front line Directly Effected View of this ISP/Phorm Intercepted For Commercial Profit scam. its in effect Wrong for SOME small (3-5%?)% of End users to use P2p torrents for their non commercial potential Piracy needs(cant use Iplayer/use DRM on their machine etc), BUT its perfectly fine for ISPs like Virgin Media and BT to officially sign "Memorandum's Of Intent" /Contracts with Phorm to Commercially Pirate 100% ,each and every End Users Unique datastreams copyright, and each and every visited website Owners Copyrighted Content for Commercial Gain. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...music-biz.html " Cash, not idealism, behind ISP embrace of music biz By Nate Anderson \| Published: June 16, 2008 - 08:10AM CT Virgin Media, one of the UK's largest ISPs, has agreed to forward British music industry nastygrams to subscribers suspected of illegal file-swapping. The move has proved hugely controversial already, generating charges of "spying on users" and even a BBC column on how Virgin could just go stuff itself into a trash can. But left undiscussed is the core question of why Virgin is whoring itself out like this; the law doesn't require it, and passing on letters from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) won't make an ISP more dosh. Or will it? BPI boss Geoff Taylor got his own BBC column last Friday to respond to all the criticism of the deal, and in it he gave a hint about what exactly is going on.