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Old 07-04-2021, 18:54   #4034
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
What you’re proposing is removing British citizenship from people born with it, and who voted against separation. That would be an extraordinary state of affairs and would have international repercussions. This is not the same as removal of EU so-called “citizenship” post-Brexit, which is actually no more than a gloss on a web of international treaties. British is a nationality recognised everywhere.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I should add something to the list:

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Citizenship - Scots on the Scottish electoral roll (and descendants) on the day prior to SCEXIT will no longer hold British citizenship from 12 months after secession. The rules for granting British nationality to Scots will need to be tight. For example, time-limited period for requesting retention of British nationality; if born in England or Wales, then allowed; if born in Scotland but normally resident in England or Wales, then allowed.

From my perspective, we are in the strange position of not wanting to break the UK up, but if they're that stupid then we're forked on making it easy for them to split or difficult so as to deter them.

As we're (England & Wales) not going to cave in financially (are we?), then a split will indeed be bitter. The Nats will be trying to screw us for every penny, we'll be totally resistant which will lead to impasse and a decision point for the Nats; we don't have to do anything. Should be interesting.
Well, of course, I didn't post a fully worked idea as it's highly complex. When the Czechs and Slovaks split, people on either side had one year to choose their nationality. But that wasn't a problem in those days because dual-citizenship was not permitted in those countries at the time. The UK allows multiple-citizenship, so it'll require an ingenious scheme to get this right.


To come to the question of those Scots who will have voted "No" to independence: Chris makes a sound point. If Scotland allows dual-nationality (England will probably insist on this as part of the Withdrawal Agreement) that will sort itself out. Except that there will be anomalies. A Scot may have dual-citizenship. Can an English person, with no connection to Scotland also claim Scottish citizenship? This was done in Northern Ireland.

Separation will be so fraught but we can't let Scotland have our cake to eat. They might eventually join the EU and their desire to spit on England/Wales will only increase.

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