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Old 16-12-2003, 23:53   #44
Graham
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Re: Militant cyclists

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Sorry, but if the weather conditions are bad enough to affect your ability to control your bike, then you should not be out riding, no excuse.
If you don't have a vehicle that can cope with this weather, then take the bus, hire a taxi, or walk.
Pardon me if I say this is *utter rubbish* and incredibly arrogant as well!

If you are driving in heavy rain or fog, do you give extra distance to the vehicle in front of you in case they stop?

Yes? (If no, well you bloody well should!)

So *WHY* do you appear to think that you should *NOT* give extra room to cyclists in rainy/ windy weather??? *WHY* do you seem to think that cyclists should not get in *your* way and if they might, they should get off and take some other form of transport instead?!

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Going out knowing you will not be able to handle your vehicle in a normal manner because of the weather conditions is highly irresponsible!
Do you think that car drivers should not drive in the rain or snow or fog? Braking distances are increased, visibility is decreased, steering may be affected. All of those mean that "you will not be able to handle your vehicle in a normal manner", so maybe *you* should get out and walk too...!!!

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Cyclists always amaze me when they go on congestion protests and invade brighton. I think the irony is lost on them as they cause brighton to grind to a halt with the congestion they cause,
I think the irony (not to mention the point) is lost on *you*!!!

Just *how many* cyclists do you see there? Now imagine that they were, instead, in cars, (one to a vehicle!!) and consider just how much *more* space they would take up!

I once saw some pictures a cycle protest where they'd rigged some bikes with metal frames that were the equivalent size of a standard car. It clearly demonstrated how you could easily fit *at least* six cycles in the same space that *one* car driver regularly uses!!

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not to mention the accidents as they are all over the place, changing lanes without without hand signals, kicking cars should they dare to turn left, even if they've been indicating for the past minute!
Thus speaks someone who has most probably never ridden a bike in traffic and has never had someone *WITHOUT INDICATING* turn left, directly across the front of them, requiring rapid avoiding action or an emergency stop to avoid getting a face full of car!

And as for "changing lanes without signals" I suggest next time you're out, you see how many *car drivers* indicate properly when they undertake that manoevure and remember that *they* are surrounded by a tonne of metal that's going to cause a lot more damage than a bicycle.
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