[Dooby]

hmm, ok, you get savings on calls, but you have to pay £7.50 'line rental' for it... that is getting close to the cost of some of the 'talk unlimited' packages isnt it? ( talk unlimited is £9 on top of ntl phone line ... gives you "Free UK National and local calls every evening and weekend.
Daytime national calls at local rates †“just 3p per minute. Free International call plan worth £2 per month. " )

whilst I think the VOIP thing is great ( we have IP phones at work, and we have a 'trunk' to the US office so UK and US are effectively on the same exchange, so we can just dial extensions numbers, we can dial out via the us office to us numbers and only pay local rates, and us customers can dial into the us office and get put through to a uk extension and they only pay us calls )

I am not sure that the saving quoted justify paying, basically, an extra line rental and if it does, then one of the talk unlimited services may be just as good if not better.

Whilst i agree about the 'why shouldnt bt be able to use ntl networks' why bother? how many houses DONT have a bt line? why dont they just drop the line rental to £7.50 or something... or offer to reconnect people for free even if some ntl tech has disconnected the bt phone line...