[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by Graham

Well, yes, because Britain acknowledges the concept of "Dual Nationality", but to become an American citizen you have to recite an oath part of which says

Graham, I am pretty sure that you know that is not what Steve meant. Ignore the legal crap, and read that paragraph again. What he was saying is that, even if an American moves to Britain and renounces his American citizenship, Britains will keep thinking of him as a yank. This is even moreso in France. No matter what I do, I can't move to France and be considered French by the locals. I will always be a second-class citizen.

Originally Posted by Graham

That's *ALL* it takes? Give up *everything* that's defined your life previously to become an American??? Oh, well *that's* no big deal!

I am glad we agree, because I gave up everything to become what I am.

Although I wonder if the author of that piece has been to Little China, or Little Italy, or Little Russia or Little Cuba or talked to a large number of Hispanics who don't even *speak* the same language as him...!!!

There is a saying... When in Rome, do as the Romans do. I get quite annoyed by all these idiots that move here, and then decide they're going to set up their own mini country inside mine. For crying out loud, go back! Why leave in the first place?

Or consider that Dual Citizenship is actually not that bad a thing after all.

He isn't talking about citizenship!!! He is talking about WHO YOU ARE AT HEART.

Translation: It's that which makes some of us arrogant ba$$$$ds who think that we have the right to do what we want and to hell with anyone else because we're the biggest bully on the block!

You're just annoyed that we don't consult with stupid third-world countries and Europe before we do something.

Maybe if the US had actually *experienced* Nazi occupation they might have a different view on the situation.

Doubtful.

(NB I don't approve of the laws in France and Germany that proscribe this sort of thing, but I understand why they have them)

I don't. It is simply the government trying to regulate morality and forcing its will onto the people.

He probably got *lots* of replies, but, from what I can see, since it's *his* site, he can pick and choose which ones he repeats!

WHAT exactly does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

They talk about "Old Europe" as if "old" is bad and "new" is good, failing to realise that we've been working out how to get along since before their country ever existed.

Yes it is really funny how a continent of some 300 million odd people has started two world wars, experienced three, four dictators, not to mention the tens of civil wars inside Europe the past 500 years.

Come the United States. 50 independent States, joining a Union, with one civil war. No dictators. Prosperous for the past 200 odd years.

In the meantime, Europe still can't get its own continent under control (*cough* Bosnia) and had as recently as 1990s a genocidal maniac running around in the backyard (Milosovich).

Yes, old in this case seems to be bad.