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Originally Posted by aliferste
You see, I see it along the lines of this.
lets say in the police you have a "black policemans" group. Now people start to complain and say....why do we not have a "white policemans" group.
Well....the reason the black policemans group started was because the black policeman have been discriminated against and they could do with a bit of moral support from each other, even talk about situations they have been in to make future situations easier..
So what is the point of a white policemans group??
So basically......saying that they want someone "black in spirit" is almost like saying....someone that they can relate to, someone that follows their ideals even.
Why would you need or want a white only organisation or group............to exclude black people??? Well that has been going on for years anyway!!
Im not sure i explained that very well!!
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I think I get you, although I also think you started off by making an illustration and then got your illustration confused with the original 'contentious' point.
The folks that advertised for someone 'black in spirit' may well have meant, as you said, "someone that they can relate to, someone that follows their ideals even."
However, if that's the case, it would be entirely reasonable for a white group to advertise for someone 'white in spirit' - they could be black, white or whatever, so long as it's, to borrow your words again, "someone that they can relate to, someone that follows their ideals even." This is clearly not racist.
However in your illustration you finished up by asking about whites-only organisations. This is a completely different issue. The group in Russ' post are not forming a black-only group; my theoretical advert posted by whites is not forming a 'whites only' group. Both groups are simply asking for, as you put it, "someone that they can relate to, someone that follows their ideals even." Thus far, this is not racist. However, I fear there are some who would still see it as so.