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Old 20-11-2003, 14:52   #317
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Re: anti americanism fashionable

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Originally Posted by Graham
Ho hum. More irrelevancies.
So any points I make are irrelivant but yours arn't? hmmmm.....

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Did you actually bother to *read* those links I posted? Let me quote a couple of relevant sections...

"During allied bombing campaigns on Iraq the country's eight multi-purpose dams had been repeatedly hit, simultaneously wrecking flood control, municipal and industrial water storage, irrigation and hydroelectric power. Four of seven major pumping stations were destroyed, as were 31 municipal water and sewerage facilities - 20 in Baghdad, resulting in sewage pouring into the Tigris. Water purification plants were incapacitated throughout Iraq."

"An estimated 90% of Iraq's national power grid was destroyed in the Gulf War."

Now *HOW* exactly, is that going to affect the Iraqi military *WITHOUT* also causing widespread suffering to civilians?
As I already said, the truth of these matters and the reason for them tends not to be apparent for decades. I am sure that there was a good tactical reason for bombing those dams.


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And the US redefined "civilian" as "military" to justify their illegal actions.
While the Iraquis use ambulances to attack red cross buildings....


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However we're not talking so much about "accident" as "carelessness"!
Now who's quibbling over words!
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The US has this lovely phrase "collateral damage" to describe what happens when civilians are killed as a result of their military action. Those who are now suffering cancers or who have been maimed or killed by unexploded cluster weapons or who were made ill or died due to the lack of fresh water are just more "collateral damage".
I believe that you yourself have called that kind of rhetoric an appeal to emotion, or words to that effect. (and lambasted me for it in the past)


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Now who is putting words into whose mouth?? There's a word for that...
What words exactly did I put into your mouth? All I said was:
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Don't put words in my mouth. You have every right to condemn 'us' but when you don't utter a peep about 'them' it strikes me as odd and rather one-sided
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'You just condemned the bombings in Turkey, yet you hadn't said anything about the abuses of Human rights in that same country and the persecution of Iraqi Kurds by Turkish forces! As someone said "but I don't see you condeming them for it"'
I don't see what Turkey has to do with this argument but if you want me to condemn Turkey for it's human rights abuses I will ....while we are at it, would you care to condemn Saddam for his and terrorists in general for theirs?
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