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Originally Posted by Ramrod
In war you have to take out the infrastructure to deny it to the enemy. Anything less would be foolhardy. Thats a bit different to deliberatly targeting synagogues and buses don't you think?
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And, once again, excuse me, but *HOW* does targetting civilian water and sewerage systems hurt the Iraqi military???
http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw41/watertarget.html
What about a power system that supplies Iraqi hospitals?
http://www.droitvp.org/electricityCivilian.html
You may want to quibble words about whether this is "deliberate" or "accidental", but the fact is that innocent women and children have *died* as a result of this policy and that is something you *cannot* deny.
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I agree, cluster bombs are wrong, they may kill innocent women and children but that is hardly in the same league as targeting a bus full of children dont you think?
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No, because innocent people end up maimed, crippled or dead either way.
It may salve *your* conscience to think "Ah, we but didn't undertake a deliberate act to kill these people", but I doubt that's much comfort to them or their families.
If you think otherwise, it is *you* who needs their conscience, rather than their head, examined.
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Who's phrase is that?, not mine, don't put words into my mouth.
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Ye gods, no, it's not your phrase, it's mine!! It's the way I describe your position. Other words I could use are for instance "hypocritical" or "short sighted" or "blinkered".
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We are without a doubt 'better' than they are because we don't deliberatly target women and children.
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So *accidentally* killing them by destroying vital infrastructure which is *NOT* of any military value or by using morally questionable weaponry such as cluster bombs, depleted uranium et al is "BETTER"??
I would be rolling on the floor lauging at this point if it weren't so bloody tragic.
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We don't set out to blow up buses and resturants and red cross facilities (using ambulances) I wonder how loudly you would squeal if we tried sh*t like that(but I don't see you condeming them for it
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Ah, because I don't condemn "them", somehow I have no right to condemn "us" for engaging in illegal actions! What a wonderfully ludicrous piece of logic...!
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wtf has Turkeys apalling human rights record got to do with anything?
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You just condemned the bombings in Turkey, yet you hadn't said anything about the abuses of Human rights in that same country and the persecution of Iraqi Kurds by Turkish forces! As someone said "but I don't see you condeming
them for it"