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Originally Posted by kronas
ok if that is a lie no one has come up with any credible evidence to suggest otherwise
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Kronas take a look at:
http://www.avert.org/origins.htm
This seems to me to me a credible approach and no doubt similar accounts will be found elsewhere. It's up to you whether you choose to believe this or not: if not then that's up to you. But please let's have some evidence and not wild statements which frankly do not have agrain of truth in them.