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Old 14-11-2003, 15:52   #100
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Re: anti americanism fashionable

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I theink the reason the US is hated as much as it is, especially from within Europe is that the US insists that THEY won the second world war. Hey can I just point out to all the Americans that read this, there were a couple of other countries fighting too you know? When did the second world war start? hey 1939?? bloody hell a few years before the US entered heh. What happend specifically between 10th July and 31st October 1940?
Europe was getting a royal spanking by Germany and Italy before the United States came in, and Winston Churchill said that. Yes, the other nations helped, but it was by large American forces that were responsible for putting order back into Europe.

Just like today, it is Americans that keep the peace in Europe.

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And again there were more countries than the US fighting there.
All of two people. (ignoring the British military though, they did contribute quite a bit.)

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Then we approach the Irish Americans, the people that convinced the "most powerful country in the world" to support the IRA.
I wasn't aware my government supported the IRA. Mind providing some sources?


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This 'attitude' I speak of is the one which makes america feel it isn't bound by international law
Russ, North Korea isn't bound by "international law." And neither is Iraq. Or Libya. Or countless other countries. We are a sovereign nation. Respect that. If you don't, well, *shrug.*


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If Iraq doesn't have any WMD as the evidence now suggests.
Oh please. I don't believe that, and I certainly didn't believe it back then. And, the United Nations certainly didn't believe it either, because in ruling 1441 they declared that Iraq had WMD and that they were to show IMMEDIATELY proof of it being dismanteled, which they failed to do.


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Then the USA invaded a country and removed it's government simply because it thought it was threat and had the resources to do it.
Damn right. And I support them in that.


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they then gain money from the rebuilding contracts
Meanwhile the war costs $1 billion a week, and we just gave Iraq $87 billion. Yep, so profitable.


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If I think the US is a threat to international security can I try to overthrow Bush?
Oh I see. Bush is a worse guy than Saddam right?


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does that give them the right to invade the USA?
By all means. If you can't solve your situations diplomatically, war usually follows. I will resepct their right to declare war on the United States. Just keep in mind we won't send troops over to support them in that.


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Sorry to be picky, but a Sovereign state is ruled by a Monarch. Last time I checked, Canada and America did not have a royal family. You are a republic.
scastle, you're being very dumb. Two points.

Sovereign means, as Webster's put it, c : enjoying autonomy : INDEPENDENT <sovereign state>. It has nothing to do with royalty.

Second, Canada has a queen. So please. The United States is a sovereign republic, and Canada is a sovereign constitutional monarchy.


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Military action does not allow for deliberate strikes against civilian targets, targeting civilians only.
And I couldn't agree more. The United States does not go out there targetting civilians on purpose. Sure, accidents happen, and that is tragic. But I am quite a firm believer that our soldiers are rather honorable compared to the rest of the people. When was the last time you heard American soldiers rape their PoWs?

Israel is the same. They don't target civilians. They target militants. It just so happens that the Palestians, demonstrating the bravity, find it useful to hide among civilians and put their ammunition factories among schools and hospitals.
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