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Originally Posted by downquark1
Of course it does, Jesus helped lepers, criminals and tax collectors - social outcasts. He proclaimed love thy neighbour as yourself - IE you are equal to your neighbour - if anything Jesus was communist.
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uh oh ... fairness and equality are hallmarks of Jesus' teaching, but Communism? No. Communism is about more than that. Communism calls for redistribution of wealth (by force if necessary), something you can't claim Jesus advocated, even after allowing for statements he made like 'give your riches to the poor and come, follow me.' Additionally, his portrayal of the afterlife clearly indicates a 'heirarchy' in which his people have greater or lesser rewards according to their life on earth.
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Originally Posted by graham
And why hasn't the US invaded all the other countries in this world, such as, say the Democratic Republic of the Congo which are run by mass murderers? Surely it couldn't be because they don't have any oil?
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This is a valid point, but it doesn't answer the question you quoted above it. So here it is again:
Do you miss the fact that mass murderers no longer run Iraq?
You yourself admitted that there are some truths in this Times article, albeit serving to make lies more palatable. However what you have not done is to say which you think is which.
Sadly this thread is dominated by much posting of contrary points of view, with each side dismissing the other's view as 'agenda' or 'dogma', but there is precious little willingness to debate the substantive issues.
I say again, the 'facts' quoted in the article are either
true or they are
false. You called this 'nonsense' but then in your very next sentence you agreed with me:
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Originally Posted by graham
Sorry, but this is nonsense.
He mixes facts with supposition, falsehood, innuendo and hearsay to make his points. There is some truth in what he says, I have no doubt, but that only makes the lies more palatable.
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Right, so, as I pointed out, and as you clearly agree, what he publishes as fact is either true or it is not. In your case, you clearly have an idea what you think is true and what you think is false. Would you care to say which is which?