speaking as a broadband customer of NTL, i think the only way they can win over customers is to do a bundle which upsets sky, but how can they do that when NTL's television service is 'inferior' (sorry NTL fanboys
) to SKY's, the only thing i can see them competing on right now is the telephone service, with an outside of chance of broadband, thats if NTL change pricing and speed.......