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Originally Posted by orangebird
That wasn't my point - I'm quality over quantity  I don't care how many dating/shopping/religion channels Sky have that ntl don't. Just because Sky has more channels, it doesn't automatically qualify it to be superior....
Well, it might to you, and that's your prerogative - have fun texting into the 'Babe' channels, do you? 
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This is true but the PVR / HD facilities do. Sky's TV is at present better than ntl's and that's a fact. If ntl had better TV they'd be pimping the fact instead of trying to sell based on the whole convergence thing.
Also you don't need to be on top of the exchange to get 16Mbit, as I said before the majority of people connected to an ADSL2+ exchange will see over 10Mbit.
Are you on commission OB?