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Originally Posted by jtwn
Theres a difference between the newboys and an established player in the market thats been there for over a decade. In relative terms, the cablecos have been offering the same thing for years now, so you can't expect a magic number of signups just out of nowhere.
Besides theres also one thing in having x so many customers sign up, and actually be able to cope, ala Bulldog.
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Obviously LLU isn't in as much trouble as you think then if they have so many customers signing up they can't cope.
I don't see the whole 'different thing' as being relevant at all either, rather a feeble excuse.
If these products have been available for years surely the saturation for
broadband would affect LLU as well? After all people don't buy 'cable' or 'ADSL' they buy broadband. Most don't care how it is delivered.
If cable operators have been offering the 'same thing for years now' and are unable to grow their markets that is their problem for not innovating enough. ADSL in the UK on LLU operators has gone from 2 to 4 to 8 to 24Mbit sync rate and prices have dropped astronomically. I'd consider cable to be as under threat as LLU, though that's competition, and competition will hopefully be good.
Don't see why you're happy about the idea of LLU being in strife either to be honest, it's LLU and BT Wholesale DSL that's forced ntl to increase speeds and lower prices. If it weren't for those we'd all probably still have our 512 - 600k down and 128k up for £25 or a massive 1Mbit down and 256k up for £50.
You might want to actually try the competition instead of knocking it as it's not too shabby at all. I actually pay full price for my package as my supplier doesn't need to bribe me with discounts to compensate for their crap customer service and get basic TV and unlimited, unshaped 8m/512k (soon 22m/1m) broadband for £27 / month.
Or you could carry on puckering up to cable, though if you're angling for a job with ntl in engineering you're pretty optimistic.