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Originally Posted by sollp
I would like to see this law that is always rolled out everytime this discussion airs.
The fact is you should have the STB collected if you have disconnected the service. If you have got the STB through other means you are not supposed to use it on the NTL system if you are not paying for a subscription.
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If you really knew your stuff you'd know it was the subscribers responsability to return it!
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The channels are not free to air, that is on the Terrestrial side not on cable. NTL do not provide "freeview or free to air", they have by-pass units fitted on STB's to enable customers to record the channels 1-5 whilst watching cable, this was seen as an added extra, something that Sky boxes didn't provide unless you had your roof ariel plugged into the Sky box.
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Stop talking out of you ass.
If you stop subscribing from Sky your viewing card reverts to a FTA/FTV card.
If you stop subscribing from Ntl your STB still recieves the channels 1-5
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Unfortunately people, see that this is provided as freeview or by law, whatever!
It isn't either.
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If Ntl want the STBs then they'd collect them, if people continue to use them when the subs are canceled then that's Ntls look out.
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Yes NTL do care about these STB's as well,(i know before it is said) they are making more of an effort to retrieve the STB's as it costs money to replace the ones that havent been collected. No they don't dump them either they are reused.
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They have to pay to dump them, like the modems, it costs them more than the items are worth.
Why would they bother sending a man (paid £7+ an hour) to collect a piece of junk worth a fiver that will cost them twice than that to dump.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Why would Ntl want to find you, if they get the box back they have to pay to dump it!
If you connect it to the network you'll get channels 1-5 with no subscription - pretty much what you can get from your aerial on the roof. 
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Treat it like Ondigital STBs if you've always had it connected to that Ntl ouput - it'll give you 1-5 in digital as would your ariel with a Freeview STB - nothing more nothing less.
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Originally Posted by AndyCambs
Erm - why is this chat permitted about taking NTL services without paying for them? I pay for the services - others should do too.
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99.99% of people with a Ntl STB pay for their TVL, why shouldn't they get their channels over cable -they could over satellite, DTV, analogue TTV.
Edit - Sorry to the team, but people that just take pot shots at things they know nothing about just p*** me off.