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Originally Posted by nffc
<snip> If you define 2nd in the PL (which no-one other than Chelsea was going to win), winning the League Cup, and losing in the group stages of the CL as better than 4th in the PL, and losing in the final of the CL - then fair enough but I'd say it takes more of a team to knock out Real Madrid, and Villarreal, and go through most of the campaign without even conceding; than winning the tinpot Cup. <snip>
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Exactly. Arsenal don't have a trophy, but getting to the CL final is a major achievement for any team (which beats winning the league cup imo).
Incidentally, I support Ajax. Four time winners, but cr@p in recent years
