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Originally Posted by Mauldor
You may ask why a person with say a 5 GIG month Cap for example would want 10mbit for example - of course it wont be for Downloading but Light Useage such as Web Browsing, Playing Games etc - just comes down a lot quicker.
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that may be what you think would happen, but alas that can only be reasonably assured if the files and websites are on the internal NTL network, and if so would come down as fast as the cable modems settings allow, there are exeptions of course were the other end (seems the US is better connected to the UK than the current EU lines for instance) can supply at the higher rates.
its reasonable to assume that over time these links will themselves get faster so generally faster is good.
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As for Upload, the Majoity I imagine of Home Users (What this product is aimed at) would not even know what an Upload Was
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it may be true were the users do not want to do more than just use the network, however i think its unfair and indeed unwise to lump the majority with that label, anyone thats ever had lag in games for instance, knows something at the very least about upload rates or takes thw time to find out, after all thats what the web is great at, helping you find out new stuff every day.
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and the way Cable Works means the upload will always be a lot less then download.
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thats so wrong, at least generally labeling cable as less capable in the upload department.
its simple really, as everything else in the ISP thinking its a way to maximise profit at the cost to the end user, in this case limiting upload after the dialup days was less expensive
for the ISP's of old and it continues to this day, theres no real reason to continue it today, perhaps NTL will be the first major ISP to change this trend!.
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(has to do with Streaming TV to your STB not running a Web Server lol).
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with all due respect, thats just rubbish, the STB doesnt care that its got a limited upload or backchannel as its also known as long as its fast enough for what it does,
it could do so much more and then it would need more upload bandwidth.
the 'DOCSIS' and 'EuroDOCSIS' are essently the same thing and the thing that makes EuroDOCSIS better from our POV that the fact that the US version uses 6 MHz while the EU version uses 8 MHz wide, "The wider bandwidth in EuroDOCSIS architectures permits more bandwidth to be allocated to the downstream data path (taken from a user's point of view, "downstream" is used to download data, while "upstream" is used to upload data)."
essentally that means that we can get more data into the alloted space, what does stop us having equal or at least far better up/down ratio's is the
artificial cap placed on every single CM and STB modem.
for instance the US "
Cablevision, serving New Jersey, New York City, and Long Island, currently offers the fastest 'basic' cable internet service (
Optimum Online) in the US with 15 Mbit/s Downstream and 2 Mbit/s upstream. A premium package offering 30 Mbit/s downstream and 2 Mbit/s upstream" also "symmetrical 50 Mbit/s downstream and 50 Mbit/s upstream (using a proprietary non-DOCSIS technology from Narad Networks) is currently in beta testing and is slated for release in 2006."
weather the 'DOCSIS' and 'EuroDOCSIS' version 2 or 3 can also produce these 'symmetrical' (same both ways) speeds i cant find suitable info as yet, but its clear that its not that the cable modems cant do it but more a case of getting and giving a far better ballance in favour of uploads ready for the likes of PS3 video upload streaming etc.
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The idea of offering Faster Speeds 'inside' NTL is something I have asked before - I got this Idea from the Chinese I think as they for example have lets say 100mbit both ways Inside there network but once it leaves china, it might as well be 56K Dial Up. Not sure if the Kit we have can be used this way (Faster inside NTL) but it would be a nice addition - much like free calls to other NTL Users.
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yes im sure thats what got most peoples attention initally, personally i was telling
fisher (paul) the old C&W highest tech exec, the same thing years ago it was in everyones interest long term, to at least begin opening up the 'symmetrical' fields also with putting Multi-casting options as standard to encurage inovation (and saving masses of bandwidth on certain types of files/traffic) , then carls 'REBOL'
became public and even P2P combined with multicasting became an easyer option for the masses as well as the corps.
if that had happened back then, then now this so called VOD and related options NTL and others are putting in place to extend their profit intake ( not for your end-user benifit BTW)
would have been so much easyer and profitable by now, as it is, their talking up the TCP/IP V6 as the thing to put muticasting everywere, but we could have it internally for use by all NTL users and indeed any other UK based interconnected ISP if they wanted to open up new markets and inovation in the UK for instance.
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