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Originally Posted by mcmanic
well i don't use P2P and seeing Newsgroups is something you pay for they better not traffic shape them to much
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If you are paying a premium news provider what do ntl care, you aren't paying them? Even if you use ntl's servers they are free servers, just a value add rather than a core part of the product.
In any event they've already said it'll be an upstream only cap.
Also obviously if you're hammering the network downloading TB of news a month I imagine they'd want a chat even with an uncapped product. The old T+Cs about network degredation will still be present.
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
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Mmm neither of those are really accurate.
In this context traffic shaping is about your ISP using hardware that identifies your type of traffic and throttles down certain types of traffic based on a profile.
It basically means that they can control how much bandwidth P2P, news, web, etc, can use on their network rather than just being able to control how much bandwidth there is in total.
The wiki article covers traffic shaping to remove jitter, and QoS is about identifying and prioritising traffic based on source / destination rather than doing packet inspection on it. ntl can certainly do that as well, tagging traffic from business users for expedited forwarding and cable modems as best effort for example. Easily enough done.