Thread: [Merged] Car Phone Warehouse BB
View Single Post
Old 11-04-2006, 15:10   #62
James Henry
Permanently Banned
 
James Henry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 562
James Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these partsJames Henry is just so famous around these parts
Re: [Merged] Car Phone Warehouse BB
Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
Bulldog is FULL local loop unbundling which means they unbundle the voice and data part and therefore can do the line install. all other LLU operators that I can think of do the partial LLU ie. just the ADSL part - so BT are responsible for the line install. if they unbundle the data part I think they pay BT £6.66 a month for the line - full unbundle reduces the cost to around £2.
Nope WLR / Wholesale Line Rental / 'full' unbundling is more expensive than SMPF / Shared Metallic Path Facility. Currently it's £25.17 + VAT per quarter for WLR compared to £15.60 a year for SMPF.

Quote:
Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
LLU isn't the leading edge of broadband, it's the bleeding edge.
Mine has been very reliable, was connected on time, withing 10 working days, has been unavailable for 3 hours or so in 4 months and gives consistently high download speeds, low latency, and high quality of service.

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/sp...6e5160283326d7

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=50
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=50
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=50
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 8ms

Think Wanadoo have found out what was causing a lot of their issues, it's procedural not technical.

---------- Post added at 16:08 ---------- Previous post was at 15:51 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
Agreed, & it's a deal that will shake the living daylights out of the whole Telco/BB market.
Here's hoping that it won't lead us to a ton of ISPs all offering services as cheaply as possible with no innovation or value add just bare bones connectivity.

---------- Post added at 16:10 ---------- Previous post was at 16:08 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaggaDagga
I just don't understand why they're deploying 8Mb systems. I would hope that their systems are all 24Mb-capable (as Be are already using), otherwise they'll have to replace everything again soon.

If they were doing 24Mb then NTL might as well give up and go home, as I doubt you could ever match this over a shared network.
They aren't, it's quite difficult to buy kit that only does 8Mbit and not ADSL2+ / 24Mbit now. The 8Mbit is the maximum they can offer until they've unbundled exchanges though.

You'd be surprised what you can get out of a shared network, ever heard of ethernet? Even fibre to the home is a shared network ya know
James Henry is offline   Reply With Quote