[hairy_mick]

how would you outsorce network and service do you mean make them all redundant and start them back under new contract if your position is redundant then the jobs gone if thats the case then they will do it by bit by bit instead of on mass chip away at it bit by bit i remember a department in ntl that had four people working for it they made them redundant and gave the work to the contractors they were told that they were not cost effective but it costs more money with contractors they in my opinion got away with it as the lads took the money and ran because they werent unionised ntl get a way with a lot.