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Chrysalis · 08-04-2006, 05:26

heh I think you was replying to me rather then jtwn, bonded channels yeah I meant just enable extra channel rather then actually bonding them.

It must be incredibly inefficent to do a full reseg when its only downstream filled up and upstream is fine and opening up a 2nd downstream is cheaper,faster and quicker.

the reason why I think it is bad, I have suffered contention before on nildram when they admitted they had capacity issues and they had a bt central on order (those things take months to commission) they were approximately 20% overutilised in peak hours and I was seeing about 5-15kB knocked of a max 60kB speed, the other times I have been under contention is under ntl on 1.5mbit and 2mbit again both times the amount wasnt that bad probably lost about 30% of my speed and most of the day was ok. This is the first time I have lost 95% of my speed.

I dont see whats a msytery about my situation, it slows down in the evenings when more people are online and speeds up in the early morning. It isnt rocket science. Factor in as well loads of work was done at my property to rule out a local issue and other work has been done at the ubr to rule out other possibilities, you are right I dont know 100% it is not contention but given the noise made from this and my issue got escalated I would think if it was something simple it would have been resolved by now.

I see 2 channels used up to promote ntl products on my analogue tv and one to show price drop tv, so thats 3 channels easily freed up, I guess ntl made their choice on what they think is good use for their channels. No DTV here.

To add about BT cramming users in, I dont care if they put 10000 in as long as they get performance issues, the key thing there would be is do they react when speed complaints come in, isp's should know now you cant use hard numbers to justify upgrades, 200 customers might be fine in one area and 20 might be too much in another area, if an isp doesnt like upgrading with just 20 customers then they should redesign their product portfolio to something they can handle.

08-04-2006, 05:26	#226
Chrysalis cf.mega poster Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 12,047	Re: Traffic Shaping heh I think you was replying to me rather then jtwn, bonded channels yeah I meant just enable extra channel rather then actually bonding them. It must be incredibly inefficent to do a full reseg when its only downstream filled up and upstream is fine and opening up a 2nd downstream is cheaper,faster and quicker. the reason why I think it is bad, I have suffered contention before on nildram when they admitted they had capacity issues and they had a bt central on order (those things take months to commission) they were approximately 20% overutilised in peak hours and I was seeing about 5-15kB knocked of a max 60kB speed, the other times I have been under contention is under ntl on 1.5mbit and 2mbit again both times the amount wasnt that bad probably lost about 30% of my speed and most of the day was ok. This is the first time I have lost 95% of my speed. I dont see whats a msytery about my situation, it slows down in the evenings when more people are online and speeds up in the early morning. It isnt rocket science. Factor in as well loads of work was done at my property to rule out a local issue and other work has been done at the ubr to rule out other possibilities, you are right I dont know 100% it is not contention but given the noise made from this and my issue got escalated I would think if it was something simple it would have been resolved by now. I see 2 channels used up to promote ntl products on my analogue tv and one to show price drop tv, so thats 3 channels easily freed up, I guess ntl made their choice on what they think is good use for their channels. No DTV here. To add about BT cramming users in, I dont care if they put 10000 in as long as they get performance issues, the key thing there would be is do they react when speed complaints come in, isp's should know now you cant use hard numbers to justify upgrades, 200 customers might be fine in one area and 20 might be too much in another area, if an isp doesnt like upgrading with just 20 customers then they should redesign their product portfolio to something they can handle.