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Old 27-10-2003, 17:20   #315
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Re: BNP loses seats

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Originally Posted by Defiant
One of the reasons why things are in such a mess in this country. Nice one, you fight the system and help those who wont to do wrong
The only way to guarantee a crime-free society would be to lock everyone up and only let people out who could prove they were law-abiding people. Anything less than this risks criminals wandering our streets. Or you might take a less extreme approach and abandon the presumption of innocence: accuse someone of something and put the burden of proof on them to show that they did not do it, rather than on the prosecution to prove that they did.

Both of these are 'liberties' we currently enjoy that you could say are helping those who want to do wrong. Any civilised society accepts the risk of criminals going free as the price of freedom and liberty for the majority. In this sense, if you go for ID cards, you are rejecting a tougher solution (i.e. lock everyone up) and you could be accused of helping people who want to do wrong. What it comes down to is, where do we draw the line? How much criminal behaviour are you prepared to tolerate and exactly how far are you prepared to inconvenience the general population as a result?

By the way, opposing the idea of ID cards is not fighting the system because 'The system' as it stands does not have ID cards. A crofter living off the land, with no form of ID whatsovever, is not fighting the system, he is exercising his rights.

Still waiting for your list of reasons why ID cards are a good idea ...
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