Thread: BNP loses seats
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Old 27-10-2003, 15:52   #311
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Re: BNP loses seats

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Originally Posted by Defiant
Haha thats gr8 that. You call my reasons stupid lets see your reasons for not having them


I already did post a reason. Here it is again:

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Originally Posted by towny
I am currently a free, independent person who has the right, should I choose, to live a life in which I need carry no personally identifying material; nor any material that a police officer can demand I produce in order to prove who I am. I could move to Sutherland and farm a croft, with no bank account, no pension, no car, no nothing, if I choose.

If an ID card were introduced, the state gains the right to require me to identify myself to one of its representatives, should they have reason. Thus, a liberty that I currently have is removed. Hence 'infringement of civil liberty.'

We can argue about whether this loss is justified given the current circumstances, but the 'loss of civil liberty' is self evident.
Now, read my last post again. I didn't call your reasons 'stupid'; I said that I think if all you have to say on the issue is that 'it's stupid to object' to ID cards, it proves my point that you don't actually have any reasons.

Anyone can say 'I like this because it's good' or 'I don't like this because it's stupid.' I'm asking you to do a little better than that and actually post some reasons why you believe what you do.

I'll give you a clue: 'Because it's stupid' is not a reason.
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