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Originally Posted by towny
Defiant used the immortal phrase 'those who have done no wrong...' in the next post you agreed with him and observed that people who complain their civil liberties were being infringed seem to be criminals.
I was generally having a go at the notion that you can only object to ID cards if you are a criminal (which is what you said) or have done something wrong (which is what Defiant said, and how I began my post).
My apologies if I have entirely misunderstood you or appear to have victimised you ... praps you could clarify, do you think it is possible for a law-abiding citizen of the UK to have honest. well founded objections to having an ID card (whether you agree with their objections or not)?
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hmm, you seem to have something against me I'm afraid, probably stems back from previous unrelated discussions. You'll no doubt say its a figment of my imagination but its pretty evident to me and for the life of me I do not understand it.
I've never said the only people who have a go at ID cards are criminals. But you've decided to lump me in with that group who do (whoever they are) to make a point, so fair enough.
My point was simply that when we hear about civil liberty infringements it always seems to be criminals who are complaining about it, or its been raised on their behalf. I was just trying to temper the debate by saying that there are people who are scared to go out at night, people who are petrified to walk past a group of kids hanging round shops. These peoples civil liberties and rights never seem to be raised. Yet people can sue folk they've burgled for infringing their civil rights.