thankyou both for your replys.
what is meant by time sharing please Homealone?
I do have a sony free view box in the bedroom and a unused wire from a satalite dish not that i get to use the freeview box much, but thankyou for your suggestion.
I have found Ntl not very helpfull when trying to considering all the options available and much as i bitch about their standards of customer helpfulness.
They do provide me with a fair product even if trying to judge what would best suit me is made as gaurded as a secret project
any other advise is also welcome
mr limi