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Old 17-03-2006, 12:47   #1277
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Re: smoking and the pub

You cannot measure pub and club losses with brewery figures, they sell outdoor aswell as to licensed premises. Smokers can drink more @ home for less with no need to worry about the drunken stroll home after.

You would have to measure how many pubs and clubs existed prior to and after at a variety of time periods and then ascertain which closures were due to lack of custom becasue of a smoking ban and which closed for other reasons. Uk cant really use cafes in the equation either, we have never really had a huge alcohol in cafe culture.
Personally I think many smokers will just find alternative private places to socialise and use pubs less, doesnt mean they wont pop in for a pint or two here an there, but they will definatly not be so regular as before, and spend far less in there. I am also in agreement to a certain extent with others, alcohol is as bad a drug as smoking, effects on others can be somewhat more instantaneous than a few years of passive smoking. Its unfortunate but as theres such a large amount who cannot control themselves while under the alcohol influence, it to should be banned from all public places. This would help illeviate drink driving offences, binge drinking and the violence that follows, the mess the following morning all over the streets etc, relieve the nhs of considerable blood seen especially at the weekends, its really not nice taking a child or youth to hospital because they have had a minor accident and being subjected to the crap you can often recieve from the drunken absuive croud in the casualty dept, its not even nice to see them in the state they are in even if they are not being offensive just a bunch of drunkards, without the abuse that can also be there.

There should be a new campaign now "Ban all drug and drug like products from public places" and "ban popcorn with it too"

Theres many other places that could well be affected to some extent. Casinos, bingo halls etc may well suffer a large loss in patronage.
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