thaks for the welcome,
it seems to happens with most sites, its even worse on the girlfriends laptop (winme).
ive tried setup with and without the router and there seems to be no difference.
the only other thing i noticed is that when the cable modem is connected to the router it occasionally loses its ip address for no reason.
usually its something like 81.86.68.86, then i have unplug it from the router, give it 5 mins then reboot everything and it gets the same ip address back.
i will try the web cache and dns change after work
