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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
er ok, so you do accept smoking affects your lungs?
YES or NO?
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YES ok?
Smoking has been proven to affect some people and not others.
Therefore whilst smoking may kill Mr A, it may not kill Miss B, therefore it is satisfsactory to deduce smoking MAY kill.
Lets take a look at some of the things, including the obvious Lung cancer.
Mr roy Castle, Never smoked, succumbed to lung cancer, thought to be through passive smoking, although it is not determined that this was the case.
Miss Emma Brown (21 years of age), succumbed to Cancer of several types, one being lung cancer, never smoked in her life.
Mr X (future father in law, smoked since the age of 14, he is now 58, recently had a toe amputated possibly becuase of the effects of smoking although his doctor would not state it for a fact.
Asthma, millions of people suffer from asthma...however take a look at this:-
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What is Asthma?
Asthma is a condition that affects the airways – the small tubes that carry air in and out of the lungs. If you have asthma your airways are almost always sensitive and inflamed. When you come in to contact with something you are allergic to, or something that irritates your airways (a trigger), your airways will become narrower, making it harder to breathe. The muscles around the walls of your airways tighten. The lining of the airways becomes inflamed and starts to swell and often sticky mucus or phlegm is produced. This will lead to you experiencing asthma symptoms.
Asthma is one of the more serious "allergies" and we recommend that you visit www.asthma.org.uk for additional information. The information below is sourced from their website.
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http://www.theallergysite.co.uk/asthma.html
this may coincide with the steady rise of people suffering allergies, and could be interpreted as mentioned before, that because we all now try and life in such sterile environments our bodies are over reacting to the slightest thing. Asthma whilst possibly triggered by cigarette smoke can be just as easily triggered by dust, animals, food stuffs, you name it, anything anyone can have an allergic reaction too.
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An asthma trigger is anything that irritates your airways. Everyone's asthma is different and you will probably find that you have several asthma triggers. Common asthma triggers include:
• viral infections (colds or 'flu)
• allergies (eg to pollen, animals, house-dust mites)
• irritants (eg cold air, tobacco smoke, chemical fumes)
• exercise
Although it is unlikely that you will be able to avoid all your asthma triggers all of the time, steering clear of them when you can will help to keep your symptoms at bay.
It can be difficult to identify exactly what triggers your asthma. Sometimes the link is obvious, for example when your symptoms start within minutes of coming into contact with a cat or dog. But some people can have a delayed reaction to an asthma trigger, so some extra detective work may be needed.
Using a diary card to record your peak flow readings and/or asthma symptoms will help you to identify your asthma triggers. You can get a free personal asthma diary card from the National Asthma Campaign or at www.asthma.org.uk . Note the times when your symptoms are worse and anything that you might have come into contact with. Discuss this with your doctor or practice nurse.
Your doctor may also recommend a skin ***** test or that you see an allergy specialist.
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So as I said before, whilst any death is sad, especially in a child, we must not take one persons crusade against the cigarette to be gospel. This child May have suffered an attack because of the parents smoking, it could just be simply an unfortunate event that occured because the child had an illness also.
The fact the childrens parents smoked when the news of their childs death was broken to them hardly portrays them in a bad light as was so obviously intended. Smoking helps people remain calm, you see anyone thats a smoker or ex smoker, in times of high stress they either light up or as I have witnessed many a time, find themselves comtemplating smoking again.
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hat helps?
• Regular use of your preventer inhaler will reduce the risk of an asthma attack due to colds or infections.
• A healthy diet with lots of fresh fruit and vegetables containing vitamin C will help fight viruses.
• Flu injections are recommended for people with severe asthma and people over the age of 60.
• Use barrier covers for your mattress, duvet and pillow and wipe them with a damp cloth once a week.
• Hot wash (at 600C) sheets, duvet covers and pillow cases once a week.
• Keep soft toys to a minimum. Either hot wash them every 1-2 weeks or put soft toys into a bag in the freezer for six hours to kill mites.
• If your in the market for a good vacuum cleaner look out for the British Allergy Foundation seal of approval. This is based upon High Efficiency Particulate Air (HEPA) filtration. HEPA 12 is the highest possible and filters out 99.97% of the most penetrating particles (like allergens, dust mite faeces and tobacco smoke). Besides HEPA, there's the S-Class filtration, which also rates a 99.97% filtration. This standard is required of vacuums used in hospitals.
If you're a pet owner you should choose a cleaner with Active Air Clean filter. This filter will be more effective at removing pet hairs and eliminating odours. A turbo brush is also ideal for removing pet hair. Some new vacuum cleaners offer different types of filtration, including one that filters through water, which is a good way of trapping dust mites and allergens.
• Damp dust all surfaces daily or use an attachment on your vacuum cleaner.
• Use cotton or synthetic blankets instead of wool. They are easier to wash and are less likely to carry allergens.
• If you smoke, you could be putting your children at risk. Passive smoking is particularly harmful to young children. If you are planning a baby, it is really important that neither parents smoke. Studies have shown that children of mothers who smoke are more likely to develop asthma. Other evidence suggests that if a parent of a child with asthma stops smoking, it can decrease the severity of the child's asthma.
Inhaling other people's smoke is hazardous for people with asthma too. Eighty per cent of people in a National Asthma Campaign survey said that other people's cigarette smoke triggered their asthma symptoms.
• If someone in your family has asthma, or if there is a family history of asthma, don't keep a furry – or a feathered – pet.
• Up to 50 per cent of children with asthma are triggered by an allergy to cats and/or dogs.
• The urine from guinea pigs, rats, rabbits and gerbils can cause problems too.
• Bathing cats and dogs once a week may help. Ask your vet for advice on how to do this properly.
• Always keep pets out of areas like the lounge and bedroom.
• Studies have shown that using a vacuum cleaner with a filter can reduce levels of cat allergen in the air
• Take your usual dose of reliever inhaler before going out on cold, dry days
• Wear a scarf over your face if it's cold and windy. It will help warm the air up before you breathe it in.
• Try to avoid going out in the middle of the day on hot, smoggy days.
Thunderstorms can also release large quantities of pollen into the air and trigger asthma attacks.
• If grass pollen triggers your asthma it is important to review your treatment with your doctor or practice nurse before the hay fever season begins.
• On hot, dry days avoid spending too much time outdoors.
• Avoid long grass.
• Keep car windows closed.
• Look out for pollen forecasts on the television, in newspapers or on the internet.
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So whilst I and the medical profession acknowledge that smoking is bad, I will not houn smokers, I will respect their rights to do what they please in this free country, I wont simply blame parents for killing their child because they smoke. I will look at the evidence and I shall make my own mind up. I still do NOT think that the parents smoking killed the child in the example given.