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Old 10-01-2006, 14:49   #23
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Re: Impeach Blair now says limp-wristed do-gooder leftie, er, former SAS General

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
That is how it should be - voting on a single issue is just daft.

I know that often between the parties and the media they try to make it look like a referendum/vote of confidence, but it is up to the electorate to look past the single issue.
Surely, though, if the PM were legally impeachable, no-one in their right minds would vote for him - which would have made the elcetion a single issue one.

And the fact that no-one has taken their words any further would suggest that he is not impeachable - however much we might like him to be, or that there is much conjecture but little in the way of a black and white position.

This is backed up by the fact that Labour was re-elected. People who vote had a difference of opinion and those that didn't couldn't give a hoot whether we go round invading other countries without permission or not.

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
If we had PR, we wouldn't need the Lords at all...
That sounds like a scary proposition to me. If you cast your mind back to the 97 election where New Labour had a huge majority, PR would have ensured that every vote would have gone their way and that there could be no check and balance for new policy and laws. As it is, Labour used a shaky (at best) draconian bit of statute to force though its opinions on hunting with hounds. Now, I don't support the concept of fox hunting, but it's clear there is a roughly 50/50 split on opinions in this country, and we have a system of making laws that ensures it is ratified by our "elders". This process, which has served us quite well for many centuries was overridden - and that to me is more worrying than laws that offend a lot of people.

We have to have procedures to attempt to keep some sort of normality in this country, no matter how hard the present government might want otherwise.

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
Government isn't a popularity contest - this is one of those things that makes me despair of politics (and sport too, as it happens) in the UK.
I'm assuming you mean that government should not be a popularity contest? Because that's exactly what it is right now, that and an exercise in marketing. One thing is for sure, it's not government as we knew it - and when you scratch under the spun surface, what you find starts to scare you.
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