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Old 31-12-2005, 20:59   #8
nedsram
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Question Re: emails blocked by NTL?

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Originally Posted by Okonski
I'm surprised, because I get wall to wall spam on all my NTLWorld accounts, they let everything through even the stuff that's so obvious (code letters in the subject line). Unless they've given you special treatment...?!
Most primary email accounts will now get masses of spam. I posted a month or two ago that I strongly suspected that spammers had obtained a list of primary email addresses. This generated some heated discussion. I'm not going to respond to any flames this reply may generate, but I am now being bombarded by offers of pirated software (full of Amazon graphics) - several per day. I am letting spam through (flagged as such), because otherwise I lose some solicited emails, but am directing it to my "deleted items" folder. As I expect you are aware, there are several spam options, which you can set here:

http://webmail.ntlworld.com/

However there are two issues.

1. NTL block email from sites registered with the SORBS database. Or rather they just fail to respond, so it times out. This includes any relay used to get the email to you, so the problem isn't necessarily the originating site. At present this includes hotmail. I can verify this as I have had to set up a hotmail account for the numerous people on hotmail who can't send email to us. I then sent a test email to my NTL account, and it was ignored (timeout). However SORBS must have received spam for the site to be registered.

2. The pirated software emails direct you to a site in China. I confirmed this by doing a whois on the IP address of the web site you are invited to go to. However if they are specifically targeting NTL accounts, it's unlikely that SORBS will see them, so it won't be registered there.

The result is that lots of spam gets through, but legitimate emails from hotmail and other sites (which for us recently has included beeb.com and lycos - relayed via demon) get discarded. I raised this issue wiith NTL, and they are adamant that using SORBS "offers the best protection to our customers". That's a matter of opinion.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nostra
type the ip address of the mailserver that is being blocked into

http://www.openrbl.org/

and that will tell you what blacklists have your server blacklisted
I just did that for hotmail (65.54.244.136), which is apparently in the SORBS database (see another post). This is what I got. The problem is that I have no idea how to extract the blacklists from the information provided:

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Query IP-Address 65.54.244.136 (hotmail.com)
DNSBL Lookup "65.54.244.136"


Lookup at Openrbl requires JavaScript1.5 and W3C-DOM. No scripting!
JS-ClientJavaScript/DOM application CompleteWhoisHTML tablePlain text
MORE about "65.54.244.136"


Ressource-intensive CGI-Links protected from Robots with JavaScript.SEARCH on Newsgroups and the Internet


External Links - use [<- BACK] to return to this page.---------- Post added at 21:59 ---------- Previous post was at 21:53 ----------

Update: I just did a search of the SORBS database for the hotmail email server and it doesn't seem to be there. However NTL are definitely blocking emails from hotmail. Do NTL use any other databases?
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