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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Did it close or did it just do a U turn because it couldn't afford to stay open as a non-smoking establishment?
Surely the argument that there are loads of people just dying to go to the pub but don't want to put up with smoke is shot down in, um, smoke, by that pub moving from non-smoking to smoking?
If the majority of the population are non smokers who want to go to the pub but don't because of smokers, then that place should have been packed.
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It closed but was bought out and they put all the old staff back in - and you may well have a point about that aspect of the argument being shot down but at the same time the argument of "stop complaining, there are enough non-smoking pubs around" must also be shot down. But bear in mind also that Swansea Council failed offer it support in the way it has totally blitzed the rest of Wind Street with financial packages.
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
As for complaining that the nearest one now is 20 miles away, the nearest good restaurant (non-smoking of course), or cinema for that matter is about 20 miles away from me (1hr round trip) and I do it because it's my choice.
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Fine - I'm in the camp of "more choice" than "outright ban" - I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies of many smokers' points.