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Old 02-11-2005, 12:35   #755
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Re: smoking and the pub

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Originally Posted by clarie
Smokers can go anywhere they like, they just can't smoke inside.
Ok, I'll repeat what I just said and hopefully clarify things for you.
At the moment, a smoker can sit down, have a meal in a smoking establishment and smoke at the same time.
Non smokers have the choice to go into the same establishment, and sit down and eat with the smokers (or in the non-smoking area although some people on here seem to have been to some really bad restaurants as they say the non-smoking area is smokey whereas I've never been in such a place) or they can choose not to go in and sit down and have a meal with smokers.
That to me is fair.
Everyone chooses what they want to do based on their personal view of a legal activity (ie smoking)

After the ban, smokers will not be able to have a cigarette while having their meal, and as a non-smoker, I won't have the choice to go into smoking establishments and enjoy a meal with my friends who do smoke.

Do you know understand the issue here?
My right to choose is being infringed upon.

Do you really think it is reasonable for you to walk into a smoking establishment through your own free choice and request all the smokers stop just for you?

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Originally Posted by Chris T
Yes, people are being forced into smoking establishments because if they want a night out, there's nowhere else to go!

Why should smokers be forced out? Because their minority behaviour has an unacceptable impact on the majority. Making things harder for them might also encourage them to quit a habit that's likely to kill them also.

It's that simple!
If going into a smoking establishment is so unreasonable Chris, then don't do it.
If the need to go into the pub "for a good time" is greater than your own health concerns then frankly what are you complaining about?
If a pub is too smokey for me, I will not go in there. Simple as that.
Either you accept the risks and go in, or if they're unacceptable, you don't.
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