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Originally Posted by clarie
I am not sure getting back into this bit is a good way to proceed but we can if you like...
You're right, smokers aren't asking any non-smokers to be in a smoky environment. They are however, saying if you don't like it, go elsewhere. You're also not taking into account people who are not as educated as others in the dangers of smoking, or the poorer people living in areas where there are very few, if any, non-smoking pubs.
It is a dangerous habit. If you want to indulge in it, that's fine. But millions of people choose to renounce it or to avoid it because of its danger. If smokers can't or don't, that's their problem, and it's not ok to inflict it upon me.
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Doesn't the fact that there is a lack of no smoking pubs tell you something? Publicans could have made their pubs non-smoking some time ago. Why didn't they? In an area that has no non-smoking pubs I would have thought that a publican deciding to make his pub non-smoking would be on an absolute winner. All those potential customers who want to enjoy a smoke free atmosphere would flock to it and profits would go through the roof. Maybe the people who frequent pubs actually prefer things the way they are without a ban.
I very rarely go in a pub these days because of my medical condition which makes getting about difficult and alcohol an absolute no-no (stares longingly at the unopened bottle of 25 year old single malt in the cabinet and thinks "if only"). Smoking is bad for my health in many ways but it is also a big benefit to me in association with the L.Dopa prescribed for Parkinson's. Whilst going to the pub is a rare occurence for me I would never go in one again if smoking was not allowed.