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Originally Posted by Wayne A
Just to get one thing off my mind, my mate tells me that when i buy a CD in the shops and make copies of it for my own use, am i doing anything dodgey
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As nnfc says, on a technicality you are in breach of copyright - in the same way as people who made a copy of an LP to listen to in the car all those years ago were also.
In addition, whilst maintaining the technicality (mostly as removing it from the laws would allow a loophole just like that which allofMP3 are exploting) the recent EU directive on copyright urged local bodies in its member states to behave 'reasonably' to individuals that do things like copying for their own use. And before some smart-alec pipes up and says that sharing MP3s is personal use - no it's not. Mr EU said so.
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Originally Posted by Gareth
A fiver...? Where d'you get your CDs for a fiver, mate?
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Some bloke in the pub
Seriously though, I buy new releases at between 8 and 9 quid each and back catalogue stuff and best-ofs are now dirt cheap...3/4 quid a pop.
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Originally Posted by littld
Allofmp3 is legal in Russia. Restricting them selling outside Russia would break international trade law which is why it'S still running.
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Incorrect. I explained the situation with allofMP3 earlier and the fact that they are permitted to operate under a loophole. However they do need the permission of the body that takes care of half of the repertoire in the country - and as they won't speak to anyone (even their counterparts in the other licensing body) allofMP3 actually have NO license to operate in Russia or anywhere else.
The reason they are still operating is becuase the body that needs to take action won't talk to anyone, after a falling-out with their opposites - and so nothing in Russian licensing gets done. This is also why the loophole has yet to be closed.
It will happen, allofMP3 will shut (or move somewhere even more lawless) but it could be many years before this happens.
HOWEVER....if you'd read my earlier post, you would have seen that under the legal precident of Levis vs Tesco, it is the case that the copyright owner (or their representatives) can control how their product is imported. Levis won that case in the UK, Tesco was found to be in breach of copyright by buying 501's quite legally in the US and importing them in to the UK.
This precident, which now forms UK & EU copyright law, means that you, as the importer, are in breach of copyright by not sourcing a copyrighted work from within the EU or seeking the copyright owners permission to import from Russia (which would be denied, one assumes).
So whilst allofMP3 may very well be operating within the law in Russia - YOU are acting ILLEGALLY by downloading from them. Oops.
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Originally Posted by littld
Allofmp3 have been very good with my credit card details (unlike some uk companies I could mention). |
I'm glad for you...no really, I am!
However, when and if allofMP3 is shut down following a change in the copyright laws in Russia, it is quite possible that the bodies that make up the IFPI (the international umbrella group of many nations' licensing and music industry bodies) may very well press for the Russian courts to order that subsriber information be released, as the subscribers have breach copyright. This might well mean that your credit card information may be used to trace you many years after the fact and you may well be presented with the highly collectable BPI "come to court or pay us 5 grand" invitation.
Good luck.
