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Old 20-10-2005, 00:19   #20
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Re: Possibility of eventual parole for multiple killer?

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Originally Posted by Tuftus
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So the fact that there are major extenuating circumstances doesn't make the slightest difference?
In my opinion, no.

Everyone has options, an option to walk away wether that be covertly or not for example.

To just snap and stab some one after *years* of abuse is just not on and is inexcusable, i mean its not like they did not have advance warning after *years* of abuse?

*I know its not quite the same*, but if you are watching some thing on TV you don't like, you change the channel dont you?
Tuftus, I really suggest you do some research into the realities of domestic abuse. It is very often *nowhere near* as simple as just "walking away".
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Hang on...this threads going t*ts up! It started out about whether a multiple murdering ******* should spend his life in jail and now it's about wheather a battered wife should spend her life in jail........hardly the same type of crime. I'm looking at you, Graham.....not fair!-Stick to the original topic (or at least the spirit of the original topic)!
But part of the original post was "Life imprisonment should mean exactly that - life." and then this was raised again, so I wanted to point out the fallacy in that reasoning.

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Yes, because she has taken a life.
.........and I thought I was a hardliner!
Hah! Ramrod finds he's inadvertantly joined the pinko left-wing bleeding-heart liberal brigade...!
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A wife has suffered years of abuse at the hands of her husband. Finally she snaps and stabs him with a kitchen knife.

She has taken a life and is now a murderer.

Does she deserve to spend the rest of her life in jail?
Simple answer

YES

That is my opinion and i am entitled to it.
Yes, it is and yes you are.

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You might not agree with it.
You're right, I don't.

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Murder is murder which ever way you want to rap it up or make excuses to reduce the sentence of the criminal.
Extenuating circumstances are *not* the same as "excuses".

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Read my other posts about how the victim can be made into the criminal by some members of this society. This then allows the criminal to get off with a much lighter sentence. Then the victim is turned into the criminal.
At this point you appear to be wanting to have your cake and eat it.

Either people are responsible for their own actions (eg the battered woman murdering her husband) and she thus should get everything she deserves (life, no parole), or she, *as the victim*, is being "turning into the criminal" because of the abuse she has suffered.

You can't have it both ways.
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