[idi banashapan]

just to take this back to the initial question about the views of the Dutch stance, personally I see nothing wrong with what they are proposing. At the end of the day, it is in Holland, and nowhere else. Surely the Dutch are intitled to have a country that THEY rule?

A point was also made early on in the tread about the dutch having seen the way over tolerance has made things in other countries. It made me think, our monarchy are meant to be defenders of the faith, but what faith are they defending these days?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice against race / religion, etc. To be honest, I don't really follow religion myself, so I'm in no position to put down any sort of religion and would not attempt to do so, but I do feel this country (or the UK as a whole) has become far too obsessed with pleasing every other culture to the point it seems to steer away from pleasing the christians / English. For instance, in recent years, some schools have banned the flying of St. Georges cross during sports events and St. Georges day incase it upsets other cultures. Now there's this whole thing of banning 'Father Christmas' for the same reason. Who's country is this these days??? Can't fly The English flag in England? Come on...

I think that this is exactly the kind of thing the Dutch are trying to prevent before it's too late, and fair play to them, I say.