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Old 17-10-2005, 20:12   #131
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Re: smoking and the pub

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Originally Posted by Salu
The decsion is really; As a non smoker, which do you prefer - Paying more taxes and living longer due to the decreased risk of passive smoking or being wealthier as a non smoker?

Smoking directly causes lots of diseases. Lung cancer is the well known one. But there are others for example; Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Heart Disease, Other cancers (Throat, nose, mouth, pancreas, leukaemia etc), Circulatory problems, impotence, asthma, etc etc)

People often use the "Well I could go out today and get run over by a bus, so I might as well enjoy myself smoking...." To that I reply that being run over by a bus is probably a kinder way to die than smoking. Believe me, I have seen many people die from smoking and it is painful, degrading, scary (as you can't breathe) and slow.

You have to balance the pain/gain.

Any ban I would support wholeheartedly
Could you quote some figures and comments concerning the risk to health of passive and active drinking ? The costs to the health service of treatments in A&E ? Every RTC caused by a sober or drunk driver costs £250,00 0 ! Passive drinking is prevelant in every area, fights in the street, criminal damage to property, kids without enough to eat because the old man, or woman is boozing every night, time wasted in courts punishing offenders for drink related violence and mayhem. Assaults on NHS, police bar staff and law abiding citizens, damage to street furniture.
Then there are the medical costs of alcohol abuse treatment in an already shaky health service. My local hospital is £7 M overspent this year, non-urgent surgery is being cancelled.
As an abstainer I find passive drinking a scourge in society and cannot believe that people who swallow ethanol for "fun" are upset when some one lights up a cigarette. Hypocrites or what ?
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