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Originally Posted by iadom
Pardon me for having an opinion, but then I have only been in the trade 36 years.  As for LG being any good tell that to the customer I went to last week with a 2 year old LG that had suffered a main drum support failure, that the machine was BER ( beyond economic repair )and was not a real cheapo. I advised her to buy a Bosch which she did. Buy a cheap washer at £200 that lasts 2 years, cost after ten years £1000 plus a far greater amount of breakdowns, buy a good quality machine at £400 to £500 and get 10 to 15 years of far more reliable service. The 'its cheaper to throw it away' attitude is one of the root causes of the poor quality on sale today. The WEE directive cannot come soon enough. |
I'm not knocking your knowlegde, experience or opinion - but no company becomes one of the biggest by only producing rubbish, it's basic economics and marketing. My mother has a Goldstar telly (which as you know became LG) which has been going strong for about 15 years I would guess, so they can't be THAT bad!
And yes, on the basis that buying a 200 quid washer means that it will break down every two year (which it obviously would not) then you would spend £1000 after ten years - about the same as a Miele, which are tested to last 10 years too. Personally I'd rather have the Miele for the reasons you said, but some people simply cannot afford that much upfront, which is why there is a range of brands and qualities available - again, basic marketing and economics.
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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy
hmmm Miele washing machines, arent they cold fill??? i have hot water in my tank that im not using at night so seems a good idea to use it in an economy 7 wash!
Did you buy it from John Lewis?
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Yes and yes! But it's soooooo quiet!
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Originally Posted by iadom
Sorry that I didn't reply to this part of your post earlier, I am well aware that with the exception of house prices, most things are cheaper in relative terms as a percentage of income. If you had read my post carefully you would have understood what I was saying. The reason I chose cars & washing machines for my anology was because they are both 'old' technology when compared to computers, DVD recorders etc. Fifteen or twenty years ago, a 1000 rpm spin, basic washer would have cost you around £300 or more. Today you can buy a 1600 rpm spin, basic machine for £199. The only way you can do this is by reducing production costs, or reducing the quality. In most cases the major manfacturers have chosen the latter option, helped along by the 'sheds', Comet, Currys, et al. So I will reverse my analogy and say that if cars had changed in price like washing machines over the last 15 to 20 years, a basic Mondeo would now be costing you around £6000 new.
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Originally Posted by SMHarman
But the US market is moving to front loaders. Which are better or does in not make any difference?
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My mother used to swear by her toploader when I was a kid...mind you, my grandmother used to swear by her twin-tub. I'm sure somone will know for sure, but I would think by their nature the toploaders are less abusive to your clothes, and of course better for people with bad backs!