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many thanks for the info, tried spybot, it found a few that adaware missed, including the porn dialers, including reg keys to dialers - but -
still having the same problems, at the moment, the only way i can get around it is to use a different ntl proxy, so, could it be a problem with the cambridge (or whatever it is i use here in ipswich) proxy server?.
oh well, such is life.
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