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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
BE are only in a small number of locations compared to your NTL network and are probably cherry picking the most profitable cities/exchanges/locations.
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Cable is cherry picked itself, it is in more areas then LLU granted but less areas then BT standard coverage.
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Originally Posted by sherer
true but i see so many people complaining and saying company xyz is better but none of them ever move they just stay with NTL and moan.. until we see comments on here from someone on BE we don't know if the above speeds are actually reachable yet
as i said the service with NTL is actually pretty good
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I will put this into perspective for you.
I decided to look at metronet, and this is my obstacle for moving since I have no other viable isp available on cable.
Current price for bb £9.99 month.
If I move I have to do behind my landlord's back plus the following.
Pay for BT line install
Pay for ADSL install
Pay £27.99 for the package I want.
Keep NTL line active as I want the tv.
Pay for BT line removal when I move out.
So amongst spending tons of money on installation/removal I will be paying 2 line rental's and increasing my monthly expenditure. This example is just for me but its not as cut and dried as you think to just simply leave NTL. I have no aerial on the roof either and there is no way I could get away with a sat dish the landlord would almost certianly notice that.
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Originally Posted by Ignition
DSL speeds are measured slightly differently from cable speeds.
Fastest usable data throughput you'll see on Be or any other 24Mbit ADSL2+ service is around 21.5Mbit/s download and 1.1Mbps upload.
In the interests of fairness though and by the same token you're unlikely to see 10Mbit 24x7 on cable, already some Telewest customers who have been upgraded to 10Mbit have reported seeing less than 5Mbit most of the time with the odd spike into the 7Mbit territory.
Being honest if I have a choice between ADSL2+ and cable if I'm close enough to the exchange I'll take 2+ every time. My 21.5Mbps would be aggregated onto a gigabit, whereas cable you're dealing with a 10Mbps slice of 38Mbps, the statistical contention works much better on DSL2+ as the contention point is further down the chain.
Anyway isn't this conversation about ntl? 
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Put it nicely 10mbit unmetered contended on 38mbit, thats the sort of thing you can expect. I wasnt aware that adsl2+ is contended on a bigger pipe like that if that's so it is a much more higher quality product.