[NitroNutter]

The trouble is normal people really is in the same boat, most suffer to some extent at the hands of who ever is in government, and that brings about this attitude, if I have to suffer so should they, and thereby come vague judgments from many who have the least facts available.

Workfare pretty much exists, you only get so long on unemployment before you must take some job and that is often instigated with benefit incentives to take the job. the rest are either unfit for work, with some who do cheat. The real problem is with those unfit for a job theyve performed for most of their working lives, retraining to a more suitable postition is practically impossible under curent benefit law. And ye you could make all those suffering ill health to return to work of some form or other, but as their performance is likely to not be up to scratch, no employer can afford to take them on as they are a financial liability in a strictly capitalist and performance based society. However many of those unfit are likely to have way more intelligence than many who are in work.