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Old 24-09-2003, 01:19   #6
El Diablo
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Originally posted by cjll3
I notice ntl has now applied the patch that disables Verislimes wild carding. Well done ntl
Errr... and your evidence of this is?? Please explain?



The only 'reasonable' patch is to apply the latest version of BIND in the DNS servers, which includes the update to resolve only delegated domains.

See: ISC BIND

Seems like Verisign are intent on pursuing with this madness:

Response to ICANN

Hmmm... Russell Lewis versus Vint "the Daddy" Cerf! I wonder who'll win

Errr... and the memo from Rusty to colleagues at Verisign is surely a joke too:

Users Vote with their mouses

How can they proclaim such a success when users have no choice but to be directed to the service if they mis-type a domain?
... and have you read the T&Cs for the service? How can they expect one to not use a service on the basis that one does not agree with the T&Cs when one has absolutely no choice in the matter.

I agree in principle for there to be a more accessible web for those that mis-type domains, but fundamentally breaking the DNS is just plain wrong.

Things like this should not happen - you should *NOT* get an authoritative response for NoneXistant DOMAINs!!

; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> ewfweifhwoeih.com any
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 13, Addit: 13
;; QUESTIONS:
;; ewfweifhwoeih.com, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
ewfweifhwoeih.com. 900 A 64.94.110.11

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
com. 172800 NS g.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS h.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS d.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS j.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS i.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS l.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS b.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS e.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS a.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS k.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS f.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS c.gtld-servers.net.
com. 172800 NS m.gtld-servers.net.

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
g.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.42.93.30
h.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.54.112.30
d.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.31.80.30
j.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.48.79.30
i.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.43.172.30
l.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.41.162.30
b.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.33.14.30
e.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.12.94.30
a.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.5.6.30
k.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.52.178.30
f.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.35.51.30
c.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.26.92.30
m.gtld-servers.net. 172800 A 192.55.83.30

;; FROM: grex.cyberspace.org to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1
;; WHEN: Tue Sep 23 19:04:31 2003
;; MSG SIZE sent: 35 rcvd: 483

Compare this to .uk

; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> @ns1.nic.uk. verisignarestupidmuppets.co.uk. any
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 10
;; flags: qr aa rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 1, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS:
;; verisignarestupidmuppets.co.uk, type = ANY, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
co.uk. 172800 SOA ns1.nic.uk. hostmaster.nominet.org.uk. (
2003092301 ; serial
7200 ; refresh (2 hours)
300 ; retry (5 mins)
2419200 ; expire (28 days)
172800 ) ; minimum (2 days)

;; FROM: grex.cyberspace.org to SERVER: ns1.nic.uk. 195.66.240.130
;; WHEN: Tue Sep 23 19:06:31 2003
;; MSG SIZE sent: 48 rcvd: 115

Spot the difference??

<clue> check the status field of both DiGs...</clue>

As per my previous post, Nominet UK are sound <Hi gang! > - and are not looking to implement any kind of wildcard system:

Nominet Statement

Which is pleasantly re-assuring
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