[edthegr8]

right, firstly thanks guys for help diagnose a classic case of computer illiteracy,i didnt mention it earlier to avoid complication, but there is talk of a fifth laptop. we either need a router with 8 ports and use 5, or can we get a 4 port with wireless access too, and have the 4 pcs wired along with the laptop wireless.

any suggestions on routers?

thanks for all this help guys, its much appreciated.