[Graham]

Originally Posted by punky

Same reason Grade I and Grade II listed buildings aren't demolished with brand new shiny buildings.

Err, nope. Nobody's talking about "demolishing" anything and you've rather shot your own argument in the foot because listed buildings *are* restored, ie fixed up in their original condition and missing bits glued back on.

I didn't say its because people can't agree,

Sorry, I think you missed that one too. It's not that they "can't agree" it's the implication that (cf the Emperor's New Clothes) some people can't bring themselves to *disagree* because they feel they'd be risking not appearing "Politically Correct".

I just think that some people are putting undue emphasis on her gender. To me, she is a disabled person, to some others, she is a disabled woman.

Well she *is* a disabled woman...! But for some people it seems her disability is what is getting "undue emphasis", *not* that she is a woman.
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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Now there's a turn up for the books....graham lecturing on other peoples opinions

Are you trying to get this thread closed again?

I have stated many times in this thread that it's my opinion I am on about......but that hasn't sunk in yet it seems.

On the contrary, I'm well aware of the fact. Unfortunately what you're writing and what you claim to be thinking seem to be somewhat at odds.

Now you're being silly m8

But it's in the right "historical context" for the rest of the square, isn't it?!

Because it always seems to be us?

I'm glad to hear it. I'd prefer people push at boundaries, rather than try to impose/ enforce them because "that's the way we've always done it and we don't want things to change".

What prejudices of mine are you on about?

See our PMs.

This is only uplifting if you know about the models story.........the vast majority of people passing it will just see a pregnant thalidomide victim......
edit--not thalidomide-'Phocomelia'

So some people will make an (incorrect) assumption and miss the point. Doesn't mean that everyone will, nor that, because of it, we shouldn't put the statue up there.

Hmmmmm.............that sounds like one of the false argument methods you are keen to trundle out.....which one is it? An appeal to sympathy or something like that....Perhaps you can tell me it's name?

I think you're thinking of "Appeal to pity", but that would be in the form of "we must have this statue because this woman has suffered so much" (the suffering is not a valid reason).

There again, you could go for "false dilemma" (putting up two options as if they're the only ones).

Of course actually what I was using was simple irony, but I'm pleased to see that people are actually thinking about the potential fallacies of certain arguments
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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Hold everything! I have to partially retract what I said a few pages back..she isn't ugly....she's really rather nice! (but her statue is ugly)

Ah, oops.

Apropos of my comments above you might want to check out "Special Pleading" or perhaps "Begging the Question"...