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Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes
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Originally Posted by Graham
Sorry? Exactly how do you come to the conclusion that I know nothing about cricket?
Simply because I'm not so blindly jingoistic that I can forgive the lamentable performances of certain English players?
eg Pieterson may have done well with the bat, but if he'd held a few more catches in earlier matches we could have had this properly sewn up already.
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Yeh, you are like, so right, i think we should drop Pieterson for being England's highest scoring batsman. |
Oh gods, here we go...
Where did I say anything about "Dropping Pieterson"? Oh, I didn't.
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Dropping 6 catches pales into comparison when playing a final innings like he did.
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Nonsense. If that's your argument we might as well go the way of American Football and have two entirely different teams, one to bat and one to field (although in some of the matches, I think we *did* have that, judging by how they played!)
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That's why you know nothing about cricket, because players themselves and people in the game who know far more than you don't voice the sam opinions as yours.
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<Sigh> Just because I don't agree with someone does *NOT* mean that I "know nothing" about a subject
And if you'd been listening to TMS all the way through, you'd have noticed that there were *plenty* of different opinions being expressed by various commentators (Australian and English)!
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If certain players were lementable then what does that say about the Ausies, i'm an analyst and stats NEVER lie, we were the better team, fact.
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If you're an analyst, I'm astonished that you can make such a statement with (presumably) a straight face!!!
Stats don't lie, but there are Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics which can be made to prove anything you want!!
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This link supports my case. It doesn't say every player was brilliant, but it does tell you that you are wrong and the Australians didn't play better, fact.
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It doesn't tell me anything of the sort and any analyst worth their salt shouldn't need me to point that out!
What about catches dropped (either whilst fielding or them being dropped whilst batting)? Run outs missed? Number of times the ball beat the bat? Number of "near misses" where the batsman just escaped being out eg nearly playing on? What about dodgy runs or bad calls where they were almost run out? What about sheer grit and determination, eg the Aussies needing to survive some incredibly hostile bowling with one wicket left to win the match? What about them simply not crumbling under pressure?
All of these are just *some* of the factors that make up a cricket match that need to be considered to get a real picture of what happened, rather than just the "bare bones" of the batting and bowling averages!