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Originally Posted by Ignition
Perhaps we should have been complaining that both cablecos were charging £25 for a product, but with ntl it got you 2Mbit and Telewest just 1?
Also to cross post ntl have 50% more on-net customers yet potentially over twice as much bandwidth and twice as many uBRs, a good proportion of which run EuroDOCSIS which delivers more bandwidth than the DOCSIS TW use.
Not quite sure what your obsession with which DOCSIS standard is deployed is, all the standards are backwards compatible and DOCSIS 2 doesn't offer any downstream increase over DOCSIS 1/1.1 anyway.
All modems can be portrayed as doing 38Mbps on the RF interface, the 120 can actually deal with 51Mbit/s channel, doesn't mean it wouldn't choke if you stuffed that much IP traffic at it, that's a lot of packets per second potentially.
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Thanks for the info I'm not obessed but was curious because docsis3 got mentioned in the PR announcement.
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Originally Posted by dr wadd
Do you not think that Telewest might have actually thought this through? Just because they are doing something different to NTL does not automatically mean that their plans are not viable. They aren't going to be throwing around something that will never live up to expectations, otherwise they'll be constantly dealing with bodies such as Trading Standards. Just because NTL do things one way does not mean that is the only way to do things. There are other ISPs that do not have download caps. Are we honestly to believe that NTL, given their sterling track record of getting things wrong, actually have this right? I certainly do not.
As far as getting through to technical support is concerned, getting through to NTL isn`t excactly an easy task, so that criticism of Telewest doesn`t have any relevance IMO.
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To back that up I believe NTL announced a drop from somewhere around 260million loss to 60million loss whilst telewest are in the black, so their strategy is viable. Telewest announced around 1% of their customers leave a month, does anyone have the NTL figure?
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Originally Posted by BBKing
A120s do DOCSIS and EuroDOCSIS, the first SACMs to do so (the 200 and 250 also do, plus allegedly having DOCSIS2 compliance). EuroDOCSIS has substantially higher downstream bandwidth at a given modulation than DOCSIS.
Why? ntl aren't a monopoly, after all. You might as well complain that BT don't have a 3Mb broadband service while ntl do.
The justification for any price charged is that it's what the market will bear - companies have a primary duty to maximise shareholder return, not to cut prices.
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Dont worry BT get my fair share of critisicm on adslguide, but comparing NTL to BT is not apple to apple, the fairest comparison is to telewest.